Monday, July 13, 2009

CNN Somali-American's family: Who sent son to die for Al-Shabaab in Somalia in November 2008, Look hard at Their Website Kattaaib.net

CNN Somali-American's family: Who sent son to die for Al-Shabaab in Somalia in November 2008, Look hard at Their Website Kattaaib.net

Take a hard look at the Al-Shabaab website kataaib.net
US Govt Orders Al-Shabaab Website Shut Down In Vancouver WA USA Jan 23rd 2009 On The Same Day That 11 Americans Arrested in Somalia, Website Hosted by Dotster Co in Vancouver WA USA.

CNN Monday July 13th 2009, Jamal Bana is the third Somali-American from the city of Minneapolis to head to Somalia and die there. He is one of more than a dozen missing Somali-American men whose families believe have gone back to fight. "Someone must have put something in his mind," Omar Jamal of Minneapolis' Somali Justice Advocacy Center said at a Sunday news conference with Bana's family.

In October 2008, Shirwa Ahmed, 27, a Somali-American believed to have been radicalized by al-Shabaab, traveled from Minneapolis to Somalia and blew up himself and 29 others. The incident -- the first-ever suicide bombing by a naturalized U.S. citizen -- raised red flags throughout the U.S. intelligence community and sparked an investigation by the FBI.

Burhan Hassan, a 17-year-old Somali-American high school student in Minneapolis, went missing eight months ago (NOVEMBER 2008) around the same time as Bana. Last month, his family learned that he was killed in Somalia.

Neither family has any idea why the young males left the United States -- where they came as young boys -- or who is responsible for their deaths. Bana's family believes he was being held against his will.

Al-Shabaab had been using the Vancouver WA website www.kataaib.net to recruit suicide bombers for Somalia from the United States during late 2007 and all of 2008, see arrests made in Somalia of 11 Americans on the same day the Al-Shabaab website was shut down, "Domain pending cancelation per government order, Jan 23rd 2009."

Eleven youths suspected of being trained with the hardline Islamist group of
Al-Shabaab in the south-central Somalia were arrested. The youths reportedly arrived from Mogadishu to Hargeisaand had lived in the United States.

The suicide bombers were Somali youths allegedly recruited on
www.kataaib.net and trained by Al-Shabaab movement to carry out the attacks in Hargeisa.Dotster web hosting in Vancouver WA refused to shut down the Al-Shabaab site for free speech reasons.

Dotster said they would only shut down the site if the government would order them to do so.In our view "The Columbian Newspaper": Internet censor (Bill Warner) Wednesday, May 07, 2008". 'A Florida man’s heart might be in the right place, but he is misguided in his bid to get a Vancouver Internet service company to drop a Somali-language Web site.

Bill Warner, a Sarasota private investigator (http://www.wbipi.com/ ), wants Dotster Inc. of Vancouver to refuse service to http://www.kataaib.net/ ". "Warner, who has launched similar purge efforts in other cities (Boston, Tampa, Phoenix and Dallas) with other Internet companies, says kataaib.net supports an al-Qaida organization in Somalia, where war and genocide are tragic facts of daily life".

“There are groups like this one that associate with al-Qaida through Web sites that help promote the ideology, help find new recruits and help the effort to support terrorism,” Warner said in a Tuesday, May 07, 2008 Columbian story by Courtney Sherwood. “It’s not freedom of speech. This site should not be hosted in Vancouver.”

How many suicide bombers were recruited by the Al-Shabaab website while it was left to operate in Vancouver WA, USA? The far left liberal Newspaper "The Columbian" can take shots at private investigator Bill Warner but when the case is proved that the www.kataaib.net is run by terrorists and had to be shut down by a US government order, they don't report the facts.

In our view: Internet Censor
Wednesday, May 7 1:00 a.m.
COLUMBIAN EDITORIAL STAFF
A Florida man's heart might be in the right place, but he is misguided in his bid to get a Vancouver Internet service company to drop a Somali-language Web site.

Bill Warner, a Sarasota private investigator ( http://www.wbipi.com/ ), wants Dotster Inc. of Vancouver to refuse service to www.kataaib.net . Warner, who has launched similar purge efforts in other cities with other Internet companies, says http://www.kataaib.net/ supports an al-Qaida organization in Somalia, (Al-Shabaab) where war and genocide are tragic facts of daily life.

"There are groups like this one that associate with al-Qaida through Web sites that help promote the ideology, help find new recruits and help the effort to support terrorism," Warner said in a Tuesday Columbian story by Courtney Sherwood. "It's not freedom of speech. This site should not be hosted in Vancouver."

Certainly the world has changed since 9/11, and we don't fault any citizen for being alert to signs of possible terrorism. But the line separating suspicion (and the alerting of authorities) from vigilantism and paranoia gets blurry fast, as it did in World War II when the U.S. government rounded up 120,000 Japanese Americans on the West Coast and put them in camps, for fear they would assist the Axis countries.

Dotster, which employs about 100 here and has clients worldwide, already works closely with the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies, says its CEO, Clint Page. Dotster has more than 3 million domain names under its management, each with numerous Web pages. About once a week, Page told us, Dotster discovers one with questionable content, such as child pornography, anti-Semitism, credit card scams or possible terrorist sympathies.

In other instances, authorities discover them first and come to Dotster. Closing a site before the FBI has finished probing it might actually impede an investigation."We have a close relationship with all law enforcement," said Page, who in the late 1980s was vice president of the Columbia River Economic Development Council in Vancouver.

"We routinely go to authorities with complaints."Two of the most common, Page said, are child porn Web pages originating in the former Soviet Union and illegal gambling pages out of China. Without subpoenas, Dotster is limited in what it may legally provide authorities, but, Page says, the company is as helpful as it may be under the law.With subpoenas, which it does get on occasion, Dotster provides even more information.

"We cooperate as fully as we legally can as soon as we can," he said. "A lot of times these Web sites are fleeting - shut down shortly after they are activated."Another problem with Warner's approach is the danger of it leading to abuses.

If Web service is denied because of protests from concerned citizens, what would be next after http://www.kataaib.net/ ? Political-advocacy pages? The ACLU? The National Rifle Association? Minor political parties?"We can't just arbitrarily go in and shut down sites based on what someone finds offensive," Page said.

Certainly a Web page that is intended to inspire terrorism should be probed and be a candidate for closure. But the FBI or other experts should make that decision, with a judge if that's required by law. It's not Warner's call. "We can't just arbitrarily shut down sites based on what someone finds offensive."


Bill Warner
private investigator